I never cease to be amazed at how our politicians think more about foreign countries than they do about we folk who expect them to look afer our interests as a priority. "Bottler" Brown has now decided, in this current climate of fiscal decline, to give the Palestinians £30,000,000 pounds, obviously converted into Euros, to help them out. We never hear about Germany or France being so liberal with the taxpayers money. If anyone should be helping the Palestinians it should be the Israelis. Nothing would help sort things out in the Middle East more than the Israel Government showing some generosity to the Palestinians rather than doing a bit of Palestinian-bashing.

BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Brown in £30m Palestinian pledge

In my opinion, they are not so much thinking about foreign countries as their image on the world stage. Brown won't comment on Isreal when he is too busy sucking up to them. This was in the Middle East press today.

At least someone thinks he was prudent.

Re charity begins at home, I was looking for the story I'm copying below- the source is from my google search.

Discussion Forum: EU considers €1bn Africa farm aid ...

Now- who paid into this ******* fund?

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Do you really need to ask who has paid into this fund Jezer? Just what planet are these bloody inefficient and overpaid beaurocrats living on? Note the date on the link - 19 July 2008. For Christ's sake, are we, or are we not, having a major financial upheaval here in the UK, never mind about the rest of the bloody European Union? If the Africans were as good at farming as they are at killing one another we would be importing stuff from them never mind about giving them money to improve their farming methods. Note also that the money is coming from the underspend in the EU. Any surplus cash should be allocated within the EU not given to Africans who for the most part hate our guts. The Common Agricultural Policy was originally put in place to help the French farmers who, historically, only farmed small and inefficient plots of land. Being French, of course, they milked it for all they were worth and their politicians refused to alter the scheme because it would cost votes at a General Election. Instead of giving Africa money they should use some of the Food Mountain, which also takes up millions of Euros per year, and get rid of some of the stuff which must be near its sell by date.

As far as I am aware, we aren't under constant attack!
What is 30m in terms of the economy? That is how much a few insurance companies make in London each day together.

I think it is great that Palastine is being offered something, it is always Israel that has the upper-hand. So I greet this decision and think it is a good one.

Excuse me but did I imagine the attack in London when people were killed on the underground or when another terrorist drove a car into Glasgow Airoport? If my memory serves me well we have just had another five or six Asian guys who were planning to make bombs to blow aircraft out of the sky now saying they were only going to cause explosions. Also if we aren't under constant threat why do I have to nearly undress when I go through an Airport. Shoes off, belt off, jacket off, not allowed to carry a pair of scissors or my pocket knife or even a pen in my hand luggage.

30 million quid might be corn feed to the Insurance Companies but it would build another Hospital, or buy another Body Scanner. The Palistininans cause most of their grief themselves. I admit the Israelies could be much more helpful but would you help those who are sending rockets over to kill your kith and kin? If financial help is needed surely it is up to countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran to supply the money in the name of the Arab Brotherhood not Britain.

Ha ha - yes of course I can imagine the loss of a maximum of 100 people in UK terror related threats is so much worse than the daily attacks Palastinines have to overcome.
I can imagine Palastine having the latest medical equipment available and a police force that can stop such attacks. Oh yes, the London stock exchange makes money well in the billions and I am sure Palastine's economy is on similar grounds.
Yeap and God what they have to endure is nothing compared to the London bombings and a guy driving his care into Glasgow airport.
What was Palastine thinking? They don't need help.

Arh yes. Just like a homeless person (who through gambling lost everything he had) doesn't deserve any help or care. Good one.

I suspect that you object because it is Palastine.

As I said before, stop that Buffoon Brown travelling around and throwing the dosh out as he goes.

Whether it's £30K or £30M, what are his motives?

Sort things out at home, and stop trying to divert attention.

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I don't object to Palestine because it is Palestine, I object to our money being given to a group of people who will probably not use it to further the living standards of their common citizens. If the Palestinians want money they should go to those who believe what they are doing is right, namely the other Arab Nations. The State of Israel was set up after WW2 to give the Jewish people a place where they could live after the holocaust, which Iran says never happened. Since then Israel has been under constant attack from the Arab people who are supposed to be its neighbours. Syria, Lebanon and Iran. Egypt tried to remove the Israelis in 1967 and got a bloody nose. Israel also expanded its borders beyond those agreed by the UN when the State was first set up. Since then, for 30 years, there has been a constant conflict between Israel and the Arab people. There will be no peace in the region until both Israel and the Palestinians come to an agreement about borders. Israel is not going to go away so all those Arab people who want to destroy the State need to understand that and re-arrange their lives and ambitions accordingly.

As for the terrorist threats which we in Britain face, I am surprised that you consider the death of a 100 people to be so insignificant. You obviously think that the Islamic extremists who want to, or who are planning to, bring their twisted ideas into Britain by terrorist means have as similar a "good reason" as those in Afghanistan and Iraq. If we have people like Abu Hanza, and others, preaching death and destruction to all none Islamic believers and brain washing other young Muslims into turning themselves into bombs then I guess that in your book that is fine. The threat to Britain and her traditions is real, not imaginary, and we shouldn't be supplying financial aid to those who support this type of activity.

Hmm ... interesting but we both agree that all of this is a direct result of Israel taking that piece of land - which I feel they had no right to. What do you expect people to do if you take their land? offer you more ... ?

I didn't say that. Don't make up stuff.

What the hell are you trying to accuse me of? What is really that obvious?
Are you suggesting I am pro-Islamic Extremism???

wtf?? You are offensive! You can't debate. You make up rubbish I never said.
Your accusations make me feel like puking.

The threat of terror exists everywhere - welcome to the the real world - you only realised in the London Bombings. Well guess what sunshine, Palastinines and Israelis were born in this environment and some attention and care from us, would help as opposed to selfishness. Also, in economic terms the sum of £30 m has the significance of a rounding error.


There is a difference between arguing and making unsubstaniated accusations. When you work out the difference, I'll debate with you.