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Old 08-08-2008, 09:43 AM
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Right lets discuss a couple of peripheral points raised in the discussion so far

Road Tax. You have to remember that cigarettes and booze used to be big earners for the Government now fewer people smoke and those that do usually obtain 'imports'. Booze is the same a lot if it is imported and because most of it is brewed abroad the EU takes interest every time duty and tax are increased as they view it as a backdoor means of import control. A new cash cow had to be found and the motorist fitted the bill perfectly a captive market now close to being flogged to death.

Rail vs Road freight Well rail freight is a good idea peeps but sadly wont happen. Most of the branch lines were closeed in the 60's the rails ripped up and the land sold for housing in the 70's and 80's. The brew-ha-ha which accompanies every new road project would be doubled if it was proposed to build a new rail track through a residential estate (remember trains need relatively flat land so it isn't possible to bypass places the way roads do.

I'm afraid we have to face facts, choices made by beancounters decades ago have limited our options. The future is road transport maybe not fossil fueled but still having wheels on tarmac. The big stumbling block at the moments is this. If we moved away from fossil fueled vehicles to electric or hydrogen fuel cell powered the Government have not yet worked out a way to maintain the levels of taxation currently farmed from the motorist. If we increase taxation on road freight it would drive British companies out leaving the way open for even more foreign companies (who don't pay UK taxes and fuel duty) to clean up.

Sorry probably off topic but worth discussing I feel
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I really wish people would stop calling any of the taxes, which also talk about "Carbon Footprints" in the same breath, "Green". The so called "Green" lobby is just a way of screwing us for more money. There is nothing which Britain, or anyone else, can do which will affect the Climate Change which is happening at the present time. It is a natural shift in climatic conditions which has bugger all to do with Carbon Dioxide and the other "Greenhouse Gases".
Err in your opinion. Some people (rightly) believe that Climate Change is something caused by us and is something that we can do something about. What is diluting that is that our government feels that need to tax everything in the name of climate change when it isn't the case. Adam too
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Old 08-08-2008, 09:53 AM
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I'm afraid we have to face facts, choices made by beancounters decades ago have limited our options.
Agreed. I wasn't saying that rail was a viable option but it is something that I would like to see back. I have three railway lines going past where I live - surprisingly they make less noise the than the damn cars on the road!
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Old 08-08-2008, 10:23 AM
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Err in your opinion. Some people (rightly) believe that Climate Change is something caused by us and is something that we can do something about. What is diluting that is that our government feels that need to tax everything in the name of climate change when it isn't the case. Adam too
I know this is a bit off topic but I, and many more better qualified people than me, don't believe man is responsible for Climate Change. This link is worth reading and gives another link into Global Warming which is different. Climate change - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-08-2008, 08:18 PM
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This is a really interesting and thought provoking thread, as a non-driver I can only add the following: I have to rely on public transport, despite it being particularly rubbish in this rural area. If I ever manage to pass a driving test I shall be getting the cheapest, smallest car I can find, not neccesarily for the sake of the environment but also for the sake of my pocket!
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Old 09-08-2008, 01:24 AM
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BTW, anyone ever been behind a Wilts and Dorset bus kicking out so much diesel crap that pedestrians run and cover their mouths?

I have.
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