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15-08-2008, 05:43 PM
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These things do happen, I am sure of that. If not in the real world maybe in the mind world. whatever, its real to the person it happens to and that is what matters. What I wanted to get over was, in no way can we believe that these entities have some sort of physical brain that can recognize a person or know the way in your house or even detect night from day as they have no physical body or organs. What are they, who knows????
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15-08-2008, 06:24 PM
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These things do happen, I am sure of that. If not in the real world maybe in the mind world. whatever, its real to the person it happens to and that is what matters. What I wanted to get over was, in no way can we believe that these entities have some sort of physical brain that can recognize a person or know the way in your house or even detect night from day as they have no physical body or organs. What are they, who knows????
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But that is just it, something that is seen by more then one person or felt by more then one person is not in somones imagination is it and you are speculating and not asking, they do often know we are here and if it is night or day ect unless it happens to be a mirror image, every occurance is different and depends on so many factors

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15-08-2008, 06:27 PM
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And I might add, does everyone think they should be able to hold and touch something to make it real? warm or cold air cannot be seen, held or touched but it is there.........
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15-08-2008, 06:35 PM
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I did have a moment I can't explain. It was just after my granny died. I was 14 and awake in bed. There was nobody in the room but me but someone stroked my forehead and I had an overwhelming feeling of not being scared at the time. I was and still am convinced it was my granny saying goodbye.
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it would have been I am sure, you know that really but your conventional side is denying it 
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15-08-2008, 07:05 PM
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And I might add, does everyone think they should be able to hold and touch something to make it real? warm or cold air cannot be seen, held or touched but it is there.........
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No but you should be able to measure it. As I said elsewhere a Jumbo jet flying across the Waterloo battlefield would be seen as witchcraft. We all now know that flight is just the result of differential pressure. You can't see it, touch it, smell or taste it but you sure can measure it. That makes it real.
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True, but you can touch the Jumbo Jet.... Not a ghost????????
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15-08-2008, 08:51 PM
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And I might add, does everyone think they should be able to hold and touch something to make it real? warm or cold air cannot be seen, held or touched but it is there.........
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No I don't think that .. but proof is a different thing. We can prove air exists.
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15-08-2008, 10:02 PM
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True, but you can touch the Jumbo Jet.... Not a ghost????????
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Produce a ghost and I'll see if I can touch it. But as I said you can't touch pressure but you can measure it and that's the point. It's not the Jumbo Jet they would find remarkable, it's the fact that it's flying.
Can't produce a ghost? Can't measure it? Then they ain't physically real
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We all now know that flight is just the result of differential pressure. You can't see it, touch it, smell or taste it but you sure can measure it. That makes it real.
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so before we could measure it, it was not real right? before you could measure it,it was the same as now when you can.........do you see what I mean?
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16-08-2008, 10:10 AM
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Produce a ghost and I'll see if I can touch it.
Can't produce a ghost? Can't measure it? Then they ain't physically real
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you my son need to come and spend a few days with me.......see if you want to be touching it then

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